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[14:15:55 CDT(-0500)] <b-cause> yes thats what I thought too. Its just the timestamps in the log files don't match fully with when the error for the user occured. there are exceptions in the logs but they didin't occur at the same timeframe
[14:17:25 CDT(-0500)] <b-cause> I would pastebin some here but it feels like I've seen these traces in our logs for quite a while. also we've been rujnning 4.0.5 in our dev and stage enviornments the whole time its been available.
[14:17:46 CDT(-0500)] <b-cause> where this didn't happen.