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[13:29:52 CDT(-0500)] <chris_cousquer> The https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/CSS/width and https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/CSS/height properties include the padding and border, but not the margin. This is the https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/CSS/Box_model used by Internet Explorer when the document is in Quirks mode.

[13:32:08 CDT(-0500)] <chris_cousquer> so it's funny uP reset the css for all browser and after that etxjs put the crappy box model for every one...