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[13:18:26 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills> it seems that "final LocalDate startDate = start.toLocalDate();" gives you a calendar date w/o any TZ info
[13:18:53 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> right
[13:18:56 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> but if you look in joda time
[13:19:08 CDT(-0500)] <EricDalquist> it creates that local date using the TZ of the start DateTime object
[13:19:15 CDT(-0500)] <drewwills> and "start.toLocalTime()" gives you an hour:min:sec of the day, also without any TZ attached