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[09:17:22 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> good morning
[09:17:30 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> jayshao: you around?
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[09:35:21 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> morning
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[10:25:32 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> so I'm trying figure out the best way to allow people that download the quickstart to do uPortal development on it and provide patches back to the uPortal developers
[10:27:49 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> one thought is when building the quickstart to include the .svn meta-data directories but that adds an extra 30MB or so (uncompressed) to the quickstart size
[10:30:34 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> another idea is to provide an ant task in the quickstart build.xml that would download the version of uPortal from SVN that the quickstart was built with
[10:31:07 EST(-0500)] <athena7> hm, interesting
[10:31:41 EST(-0500)] <athena7> for gary and i's work, we really need a way to move changes in both directions, too
[10:32:12 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> both directions? like from SVN into your working copy and also back into SVN
[10:33:42 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> I'm thinking a 'developers quick start' would be a handy tool ... something that is pretty much a quickstart but with the uPortal code still attached to SVN
[10:34:03 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> maybe that is just another download option since that would be easy enough to package up in the current quickstart building scripts
[10:34:11 EST(-0500)] <athena7> yes, i need to get changes from gary, and he also will need to get changes from me
[10:34:39 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i think we're both going to need to make several iterations of changes to the same files in similar places to get everything finished
[10:34:44 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> yup
[10:34:55 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> so you both need a SVN attached version of the uPortal code to develop on
[10:35:17 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> and for Gary in particular the quickstart format is needed to make it easier for him to work with
[10:35:32 EST(-0500)] <athena7> yeah, that sounds right
[10:36:01 EST(-0500)] <athena7> actually, having a strategy to do all this would help us at yale too
[10:36:10 EST(-0500)] <athena7> when we work with our internal designers
[10:38:08 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> ok, easy enough
[10:38:32 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> I'll have the quickstart build scripts generate a standard quickstart and a developer-quickstart
[10:38:45 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> where the developer quickstart will still be attached to SVN
[10:38:57 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> to allow commits, updates, etc...
[10:41:12 EST(-0500)] <athena7> sounds great!
[10:42:59 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> ant really needs to release 1.7.1
[10:43:15 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> there are some features I really want to use for the uPortal build scripts but can't use 1.7.0
[10:44:24 EST(-0500)] <jayshao_> I've been itching to do a dev VMWare build that included Eclipse and a JDK as well
[10:58:54 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i'd like to use ant from eclipse again
[10:59:30 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> yeah ... it is really annoying doing uP3 dev and not being able to use ant in eclipse
[10:59:46 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> it looks like they have a release manager finally and actually have a beta of 1.7.1
[11:00:14 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> the problem is the whole way the ant script hooks back into maven breaks in 1.7.0 (but works in 1.7.1 )
[11:22:07 EST(-0500)] <athena7> yeah