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[10:21:45 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> morning athena7
[10:22:08 EST(-0500)] <athena7> good morning
[10:22:26 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> did you see my note about renaming files?
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[10:22:48 EST(-0500)] <athena7> looking at it now
[10:22:53 EST(-0500)] <athena7> crap
[10:22:58 EST(-0500)] <athena7> ok, that's not actually what we want
[10:23:04 EST(-0500)] <athena7> they're supposed to be called universalty
[10:23:13 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> spelled incorrectly on purpose?
[10:23:16 EST(-0500)] <athena7> it was mispelled in data.xml in the first version i'd given gary
[10:23:34 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i think i'd checked in the fix for it, but of course that didn't help his quickstart zip
[10:23:51 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> it was still broken in the branch yesterday
[10:24:17 EST(-0500)] <athena7> hm, ok, i must have forgotten to check that in that
[10:24:19 EST(-0500)] <athena7> sorry
[10:24:26 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> no problem
[10:24:27 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> so ...
[10:24:30 EST(-0500)] <athena7> but yeah, gary's original emails specified "universalty"
[10:24:36 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> ok
[10:24:47 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> I'll double check if he wants it spelled incorrectly or not
[10:24:55 EST(-0500)] <athena7> yep, looks like i forgot to check in that fix for data.xml
[10:25:07 EST(-0500)] <athena7> so i think we'll need to roll back the filesystem changes, and i can check in that file
[10:25:17 EST(-0500)] <athena7> sorry about the confusion
[10:25:59 EST(-0500)] <athena7> committed
[10:26:10 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> well
[10:26:13 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> lets check
[10:26:25 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> I'd rather have things spelled correctly than make up new words
[10:27:15 EST(-0500)] <athena7> yeah
[10:27:27 EST(-0500)] <athena7> he spelled it that way in several emails, so i'm assuming that's correct
[10:27:37 EST(-0500)] <athena7> for some reason my fingers just want to type universality instead
[10:27:45 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> well that is a real word
[10:27:49 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> where unversalty isn't
[10:28:18 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> if we keep it unversalty we're going to keep running into problems like this
[10:28:31 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> where someone spells it 'right' but wrong for the portal
[10:28:40 EST(-0500)] <athena7> yeah
[10:28:57 EST(-0500)] <athena7> if it's not just me that has that reaction then maybe it makes sense to change it
[10:29:51 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[10:30:51 EST(-0500)] <athena7> sounds good to me
[10:31:25 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i'm generally pretty agnostic when it comes to naming issues - but it would be good to have something that won't prove to be confusing
[10:32:09 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[10:32:21 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> otherwise we'll get people getting confused all the time
[10:33:01 EST(-0500)] <athena7> yeah
[10:33:08 EST(-0500)] <athena7> if it's not just me, then yes lets change it
[10:33:25 EST(-0500)] <athena7> as long as gary's OK with it, i'll make the necessary updates
[10:33:40 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> ok ... well what I had committed last night should work
[10:33:40 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i'll need to update the theme file to look for the appropriate skin location
[10:33:52 EST(-0500)] <athena7> because i think that's hard-coded
[10:34:11 EST(-0500)] <athena7> do you want me to go ahead with that or wait?
[10:34:12 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> that's done
[10:34:21 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> I did a search in all files for unversalty and replaced it
[10:35:18 EST(-0500)] <athena7> oh! ok
[10:35:29 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i'll back out the data.xml file change i made then?
[10:35:33 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> yup
[10:35:35 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> sure
[10:35:52 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> the quickstart link I sent in the email last night works with the universality name
[10:39:04 EST(-0500)] <athena7> great
[10:39:16 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i'll have to do an update
[10:39:28 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> heh ... it's a fun update since so many files moved
[10:40:15 EST(-0500)] <athena7> yeah . . .
[10:40:34 EST(-0500)] <athena7> so with subversion, when i do an update from a move, will it throw away local changes i've made?
[10:40:50 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> I'm not sure
[10:41:02 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> I know using the eclipse client it will show them as conflicts
[10:41:13 EST(-0500)] <athena7> hm, ok
[10:41:36 EST(-0500)] <athena7> it's definitely going to be a pain because i have some stuff that needs to be committed
[10:42:07 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i'm having some misgivings about the dojo upgrade
[10:42:19 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> oh ... sorry
[10:42:34 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> we could roll it back, have you commit then redo it
[10:42:42 EST(-0500)] <athena7> nah i'ts ok
[10:43:22 EST(-0500)] <athena7> there aren't that many changes, i just want to make sure to back up the files in case the svn update eats my changes
[10:43:41 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[10:43:57 EST(-0500)] <athena7> so, the upgrade dojo seems to work well
[10:43:57 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> you should be able to do a diff to get your local mods saved out
[10:44:00 EST(-0500)] <athena7> yep
[10:44:16 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> dojo seems to work well ... I sense a but
[10:44:31 EST(-0500)] <athena7> yeah
[10:44:37 EST(-0500)] <athena7> basically i'm concerned about the reorderer
[10:44:45 EST(-0500)] <athena7> because fluid moved that over to jquery
[10:45:14 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i'm not really that thrilled about including two javascript toolkits in the theme
[10:45:39 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> yeah, that is a good point ... so what bits of functionality are we going to still need dojo for once we switch to the reorderer?
[10:45:48 EST(-0500)] <athena7> everything except the drag and drop
[10:46:10 EST(-0500)] <athena7> so all the ajax requests and the dialogs, in particular
[10:46:24 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> which is ... delete, change columns, add content dialog, select skin dialog?
[10:46:27 EST(-0500)] <athena7> yeah
[10:46:31 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> well
[10:46:34 EST(-0500)] <athena7> so we could probably migrate to jquery
[10:46:39 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[10:46:48 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> I think sticking with dojo for 3.0 is good
[10:46:52 EST(-0500)] <athena7> although i'd need to make sure the drag and drop support is good enough to stand in until the reorderer is 100% done
[10:47:02 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> if for no reason other than time
[10:47:13 EST(-0500)] <athena7> yeah
[10:47:15 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> once we switch to the reorderer we can revisit the remaining uses of dojo and see if we can switch
[10:47:18 EST(-0500)] <athena7> that was my thought to
[10:47:45 EST(-0500)] <athena7> but i don't feel great about having 3 different javascript toolkits in three versions of uportal
[10:48:16 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> yeah, that is a bit of a concern as well
[10:48:27 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> but peoples themes should continue to work as is
[10:48:37 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> so even if they upgrade they don't need to use the new theme
[10:48:40 EST(-0500)] <athena7> dojo 0.4 and 1.0 are different enough it almost feels like they might as well be different libraries
[10:48:42 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> or tool kit
[10:48:56 EST(-0500)] <athena7> yeah
[10:49:04 EST(-0500)] <athena7> although i think we were deleting the old theme from up3?
[10:49:13 EST(-0500)] <athena7> not that people couldn't leave it in their local repository
[10:49:36 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> yeah
[10:49:38 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> we'll remove it
[10:49:45 EST(-0500)] <athena7> ok
[10:49:48 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> but it is easy enough to provide instructions on how to keep using your old one
[10:49:51 EST(-0500)] <athena7> yes
[10:49:56 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> really it is just two rows in the database
[10:50:11 EST(-0500)] <athena7> if i have some time this week i may take a look at jquery and see how long it would take to switch the javascript code over
[10:50:18 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> ok
[10:50:22 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> don't spend too much on it
[10:50:27 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i won't
[10:50:40 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> we want to get RC2 out asap and the theme work is the last thing
[10:50:44 EST(-0500)] <athena7> yeah
[10:50:54 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> hopefully Gary can work with the quickstart we put up today
[10:51:09 EST(-0500)] <athena7> yeah i hope that works out well
[10:51:26 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i wouldn't really be sure how to go about coordinating working with svn and the quickstart
[10:52:00 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> I have some ideas once he gets going
[10:52:58 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> brb
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[10:55:35 EST(-0500)] <athena7> welcome back
[10:55:43 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> thanks
[10:57:09 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> working on getting the wireless card in my laptop working in ubuntu ...
[10:59:35 EST(-0500)] <athena7> ahh
[10:59:49 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i need to update my ubuntu install on my linux desktop
[10:59:54 EST(-0500)] <athena7> the machine doesn't get used much
[11:00:49 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> I've been on ubuntu for my primary desktop here at work for about 6 months now
[11:00:52 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> and really like it
[11:01:08 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> the only thing I haven't bothered with was getting wireless working since I never move this laptop
[11:03:04 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> ok ... I think its working ... brb again
[11:06:28 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> yay it works!
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